What's the [DATA] Point?

What's the [DATA] Point? is a podcast by Citizens Budget Commission and Gotham Gazette on New York State and City policies.


It's hosted by Ben Max, Executive Editor of Gotham Gazette, and Maria Doulis, Vice President of the Citizens Budget Commission, and produced by Kevin Medina and William J. Rice.


Stream below or download on your phone via iTunes, Google Play, and Stitcher.



Episode 66: 25,000 with Vishaan Chakrabarti

February 21, 2019
25,000 is the number of jobs that would have been created under a now-defunct deal with Amazon to create a second headquarters in Long Island City, Queens. Vishaan Chakrabarti, founder of the Practice for Architecture and Urbanism (PAU), discusses the deal and how its failure may impact New York City's economic competitiveness.

Episode 65: $92.2 billion with Sally Goldenberg

February 08, 2019
$92.2 billion is the size of the NYC's FY 2020 preliminary budget proposed by Mayor de Blasio. Sally Goldenberg, the City Hall bureau chief for Politico NY, joins the podcast to discuss the budget and what to expect as budget season kicks off.

Episode 64: 8.4%

February 05, 2019
8.4% is the reduction in carbon dioxide emissions in New York between 1990 and 2015. Governor Cuomo now wants to reduce greenhouse gas emissions 40% by 2030. Is this goal realistic? A panel of energy experts met at the CBC State Conference to help answer this question.

Episode 63: 2040 with Seth Hulkower

January 31, 2019
2040 is the year by which Governor Andrew Cuomo wants New York to transition to 100 percent clean electricity. Is this target realistic? Are we on pace to meet it? And at what cost? Seth Hulkower--an expert on energy policy and the former COO of the Long Island Power Authority--joined the podcast to help answer these questions.

Episode 62: $175.2 Billion with Andrew Rein

January 17, 2019
$175.2 billion is the size of Governor Cuomo's proposed budget for fiscal year 2020. CBC President Andrew Rein joined the podcast to help unpack the proposed budget.

Episode 61: 2,268 with Stephen Eide

December 13, 2018
2,268 is the average daily number of people in adult psychiatric centers in New York State, a decrease from a peak of more than 93,000 people in 1955. Stephen Eide, a Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute, discusses the impacts of deinstitutionalization in New York.

Episode 60: 18.6%

November 30, 2018
18.6% is the poverty rate in New York City. Greg David and Cara Eisenpress, both from Crain's New York Business and the Craig Newmark Graduate School of Journalism at CUNY, discuss their recent reporting exploring New York City's safety net, how it's funded, and how it compares to other places (hint: a lot better).

Episode 59: 1981

November 16, 2018
1981 is the year in which the State Legislature enacted S7000A, the landmark law that established the current property tax system for New York City. The problems with the property tax system have led to repeated calls for reform, including pending litigation. This past May, Mayor de Blasio and Speaker Johnson formed the Advisory Commission on Property Tax Reform. In September, the Citizens Budget Commission, the Regional Plan Association, and NYU Robert Wagner School of Public Service held a panel to discuss the problem, inequities and potential reforms